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"Forget the paranormal!"
Markus Kompa 05.02.2008
TV-Mystifier Uri Geller on his experiences with the CIA, his work for an Israeli and Palestina rescue service, the war in Lebanon, his novel "Ella" - and his advice to forget spoon bending ...
Last year Telepolis brought a short bio on
, that was critisizing the media, but could have been allegded itself because it didn´t used an important source: Uri Geller himself. This was made good by meeting the worldfamous spoonbender in Cologne, where he is living for two monthes to realize his current tv-show. Between a trip to the hospital and his appearance in an a talkshow he took the time to give Telepolis an interview concerning political matters.. Uri Geller
In Paris they would change the plane and fly to Russia with Aeroflot. And I would fly with them, and sit in the first class cabin, and I would concentrate on the diplomatic pouch. There are many other tasks that I cannot talk about. They wanted me to meet Henry Kissinger. So I met Henry Kissinger in Mexico. I met very interesting and unusual people. And the CIA always had a wish list. They always told me what they want me to do.
And then in Mexico, when I found oil, the CIA said to me to come close to the Mexican President. To become friends. For many reasons I can't tell you why. But, I remember, the Mexican President made me a secret agent for the Mexican treasury. I actually had a card, it was metal, where I was Uri Geller, secret, it doesn't say "secret", but it said, "special agent for the treasury department". And when President Lopez Portillo gave me a gun as a gift, a beautiful silver with gold carving, Colt 38, I said to him, "I can't take it to New York because there are gun laws" and his chief said to me, "Yes you can, because you are an agent, and Mexican agents have a treaty they can take guns into New York. So when I arrived at Kennedy I said, "I have a gun, and this is my card", and I will never forget this, the guy in Kennedy said, "Oh, Mr. Geller, I can see the card but I have to take the gun, and I will check it out, and if it's o.k. we will return it." It's so unusual that a guy comes as a treasury department agent, and with a gun! So the next morning somebody knocked on my apartment door, "Mr. Geller we have the gun back for you."
finding oil in a paranormal way
Now in Mexico how did I find oil? I was in Los Pinos which is the White House of Mexico, with President Echeverría. And President Echeverría, somewhere heard that I can go like that, just with my hand (Uri gestures). So he brought his oil minister, I can't remember his name. Serrano! Diaz Serrano. And Diaz Serrano said to me, "Uri, if you can find oil for Pemex this is fantastic." Pemex is the national oil company. So I said to him,... and then I did a little demonstration. I said, "I will go out of the room, take olive oil, put it somewhere in the room and I will find it." So I went out, after two minutes I came back, and I went like this (Uri gestures) in the room, and I said, "It's in here." And it was true. He had poured the olive oil into a plant, on the window.
And then he said to me, "What do you need?" I said, "I need a helicopter or a plane. I need some maps. And I need to talk to the geologists." "No problem." In the coming weeks he arranged me maps and geologists, I spoke to them. And I went up with an aeroplane, the map on my leg. And I went like that (Uri Gestures), and I said, "Here I feel it". And I took my marker, and I put an "X". And then came the report in the New York Financial Times or New York Wall Street Journal, I can't remember now. I have the article, the biggest off shore oil found in the Gulf of Mexico, and this was the same place. The Mexican president said, "Uri, you've done such an amazing thing for us, I want you to become a Mexican citizen. And he made me a Mexican citizen and I have a Mexican passport.
When they arrived, he said "No, no, we don´t want your money, we want your talent. So I said: "What´s going on? He said "One: we are not accepted by the organisation of the International Red Cross for 59 years. Two: We have a problem with the Palestinians. We cannot come to an agreement. Can you help us? So I said: "Look, I will help you, take me to all the meetings, let me start meeting the Palestinians. So Dr. Noam Ifrach said, "We have to make you a legal representative." So the lawyers of Magen David Adom made me officially the President of the "Friends of Magen David Adom". Officially, you can do it, it´s not illegal. This allowed me legally to go and be in the negotiations. This was a long process. Dr. Noam Ifrach and I had to contact the State Department, Condoleezza Rice, we had to contact Arik Sharon, Israeli government, we had to contact the Israeli foreign minister and we had to contact the Red Cross in Geneva. This was complex. It took us a year and a half.
But it was not only me; it was the effort of everybody. It was the effort of the American Red Cross - I have a lot of negotiations with the President of the American Red Cross, Ambassador
You see, there was one really big problem, which I was very angry about: When you had a palestiniam child who was injured, or if you had a palestinian pregnant woman, and they have to go to hospital, they would always go to the checkpoint and then they were stopped. Sometimes a pregnant woman would sit in the car for two hours. This is inhumane. This is unacceptable. Whether you are Israeli or Arab, this is unacceptable. So this was part of the problem. How do we get rid of the checkpoints for injured and pregnant women? So part of the negotiations was this. The Palestinians wanted five Red Crescent-ambulances in Jerusalem. So this was kind of political humanitarianism, it was very difficult to achieve.
And then came the big negotiations in Geneva with Michelin Calmy-Rey. We were sitting around the table, Palestinians, Israelis, there was no talk, it was all cold. And I said to Michelin Calmy-Rey: "Tell the maitre dee to bring me a spoon." She said to me: "Uri, a spoon? You want to bend a spoon in these negotiations? And I said "Yes." So he came with a silver spoon, and I took the spoon and showed it to the Palestinians, I think seven Palestinians, big high chairmen of the Red Crescent, and I said "Look at the spoon", and I went like this. And the spoon bent – it freaked them out. This started going "Wow! What is this? And they started laughing, and suddenly the wall was broken: we could start talking to each other. I put my hand on the palestinian´s shoulder – there are many pictures on
So it was suddenly working. And it was the result of entertainment, charisma, personality, and niceness. And then, after six months, Israel was accepted into the Red Cross Movement after 59 years of exclusion. Palestinians can now have ambulances in Jerusalem, and pregnant women and sick children from Palestine don´t have to wait anymore in the checkpoints. There is a fast track for them. They go straight on. So for me this was the best achievement in my life.
War in Lebanon
She did a miracle: She found the number, we called Arik Sharon, he woke up, and they told him "Arik, you have all the documents on the table, please go quickly and look at them! He went, he looked, he sat for one hour, he called up Geneva, he says: "OK, you have the green light!" This was just a few months just before he went into a to coma. It was unbelievable, because we thought, this is it ... Everybody was sitting upstairs. CNN, NBC, CBS, all ready for Michelin Calmy-Rey and all the dignitaries to sign, and suddenly they say "No". So Arik Sharon, at the last moment, gave the green light.
Now you know the story, because nobody knows this.
Let´s change the subject: You are known for your experience in dealing with the media. I was especially astonished to read that you wrote a novel called "Ella", that complains about improper journalism and silly PR stunts. The protagonist of the novel is a 14-year old girl with psychokinetic abilities. Ella is used by almost everyone to get attention, money and sensation. Why did you write about these things?
You know, Andrija made me sign a contract, I gave all my life away in this contract to Andrija. I was naive. Andrija thought I was like a kind of a messenger from extraterrestrials, it was crazy. Then when the book
I said to this
And you know I thought, "Wow. I've been living in New York for ten years. That's a long time. Maybe we should go to England. And then I spoke to Hannah, and Hannah said, "You know what? It will be nice if Daniel and Natalie can go to British schools. And that was the decision. Then we went to live in England. And I´m very happy there, because I live in a village and there is no pollution, and my children now are big. My son went to LSE - London School of Economics, and now he is a lawyer, a barrister. He is coming here. In two weeks. And Natalie is coming too.